Comments on: ASP Classic Programming Still Alive http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37 Web Design CSS ASP PHP Ajax and Web 2.0 Stuffs Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:33:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: webmaster http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1858 webmaster Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:33:42 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1858 Glad to hear that some of you still using it though its undeniable that slowly but sure it will be forgotten. the demand of features in web application is rapidly changed while asp classic is no longer updated. slowly but sure. Glad to hear that some of you still using it though its undeniable that slowly but sure it will be forgotten.

the demand of features in web application is rapidly changed while asp classic is no longer updated. slowly but sure.

]]> By: Josh http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1857 Josh Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:40:52 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1857 I've been working with ASP 3.0 for about 5 years now, and I wish that it hadn't been abandoned. Too many bugs, useless error messages, and absent features to my liking, but too much legacy code to justify switching to PHP, and webforms don't interop well with asp classic (not to mention the poor control over the output). I've done what I could to this language short of a massive library of COM objects to make it easier to use and more scalable (wrote a templating engine, URL rewriting galore, numerous functions/subs/classes), but in the end, I'm hammering a square block into a circular hole. That said, I've started working with ASP.NET MVC 2, and I would strongly recommend it to anyone looking to upgrade from asp 3.0, without sacrificing any control over their output. I’ve been working with ASP 3.0 for about 5 years now, and I wish that it hadn’t been abandoned. Too many bugs, useless error messages, and absent features to my liking, but too much legacy code to justify switching to PHP, and webforms don’t interop well with asp classic (not to mention the poor control over the output).

I’ve done what I could to this language short of a massive library of COM objects to make it easier to use and more scalable (wrote a templating engine, URL rewriting galore, numerous functions/subs/classes), but in the end, I’m hammering a square block into a circular hole.

That said, I’ve started working with ASP.NET MVC 2, and I would strongly recommend it to anyone looking to upgrade from asp 3.0, without sacrificing any control over their output.

]]> By: Yash Tamrakar http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1850 Yash Tamrakar Wed, 25 Aug 2010 04:35:29 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1850 We can do All Things in asp 3.0 ajax lib like jquery , yui etc provide good set of function to extend it .net is making new/old developer lazy & dumb because they dont know even basic of html , they just drag drop control make a heavy sql object to retrieve data just like vb6 make developer lazy. they dont know how to optimize code. lots of unnecessary html is generated too, JS Code is not compatible to browsers as MS said from beginning try websitepanel or dot net panel use file manager etc complex codes do not work or throw errors. We can do All Things in asp 3.0 ajax lib like jquery , yui etc provide good set of function to extend it

.net is making new/old developer lazy & dumb because they dont know even basic of html , they just drag drop control make a heavy sql object to retrieve data just like vb6 make developer lazy.
they dont know how to optimize code.
lots of unnecessary html is generated too,
JS Code is not compatible to browsers as MS said from beginning try websitepanel or dot net panel use file manager etc complex codes do not work or throw errors.

]]> By: computer programming tutorials http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1835 computer programming tutorials Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:54:02 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1835 I agree classic ASP is going to be here for years, hopefully. I agree classic ASP is going to be here for years, hopefully.

]]> By: Frank Calabretta http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1821 Frank Calabretta Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:20:06 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1821 There is absolutely no limitation to what you can do with classic ASP. Integrate with HTML5, CSS3, Ajax, Jquery, XML etc. It is a stable and powerful scripting platform, that is easier to use than most scripting languages (including PHP). For 99% of web owners, ASP will get the job done faster and easier. If you are still not sure about Classic ASP, checkout the ebook: Classic ASP Myths Debunked: The Renaissance of Classic ASP. It addresses five myths about Classic ASP, where the myths likely came from, and what the actual truth is. You can also read the press release that explains the continued popularity of Classic ASP: http://www.prweb.com/releases/dmxready/asp/prweb3955004.htm Hope this helps, There is absolutely no limitation to what you can do with classic ASP. Integrate with HTML5, CSS3, Ajax, Jquery, XML etc.

It is a stable and powerful scripting platform, that is easier to use than most scripting languages (including PHP). For 99% of web owners, ASP will get the job done faster and easier.

If you are still not sure about Classic ASP, checkout the ebook: Classic ASP Myths Debunked: The Renaissance of Classic ASP.

It addresses five myths about Classic ASP, where the myths likely came from, and what the actual truth is. You can also read the press release that explains the continued popularity of Classic ASP:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/dmxready/asp/prweb3955004.htm

Hope this helps,

]]> By: Julz http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1804 Julz Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:14:50 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1804 Amazingly - classic ASP still shines in some areas compared to things like PHP. I recently (2010) wrote a pure ASP multipart/form-data file upload handler which fires off events as each part arrives - allowing me to stream the uploading content to disk or wherever (fork to cloud storage?). Great for hooking into an AJAX upload progress meter too. I had hoped to do the same thing in PHP - but it tries to do too much for you and doesn't allow low-level access to the raw input as it streams in. ASP is a fast and flexible development system. I think MS lost a lot of devs to PHP instead of to .NET because they abandoned ASP prematurely. They tried for a revolution instead of evolution. Amazingly – classic ASP still shines in some areas compared to things like PHP.
I recently (2010) wrote a pure ASP multipart/form-data file upload handler which fires off events as each part arrives – allowing me to stream the uploading content to disk or wherever (fork to cloud storage?). Great for hooking into an AJAX upload progress meter too. I had hoped to do the same thing in PHP – but it tries to do too much for you and doesn’t allow low-level access to the raw input as it streams in.

ASP is a fast and flexible development system. I think MS lost a lot of devs to PHP instead of to .NET because they abandoned ASP prematurely. They tried for a revolution instead of evolution.

]]> By: Zod http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1730 Zod Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:19:46 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1730 ASP classic was my first language, when i was a student. It helped me a lot doing my first CMS... yes i made one, and i used it for some clients of mine. But today this is not an option anymore. What i need is much more professional and PHP Open Source CMS are the best way. These products are stable, bigger, and they fix a lot of bugs following high standards of quality, performance, and they merge many modern open source php and ajax tools giving you a powerful system. And today i need some libraries to edit images, cropping, resizing... tools that in past were not important, but they are now. PHP is alive, together with Mysql and it gives a lot of power. Asp is old and discontinued by Microsoft... so i cannot follow some nostalgic good guys. So i think that asp classic is a good tool to learn some easy logic at school, it allows you to make some bad code too, for example it doesn't use the ";" at the end of the strings :) like PHP would. But seriously i would advice everyone to jump to PHP as soon as they can. It is more powerful, and it can teach you how to make better code. ASP classic was my first language, when i was a student. It helped me a lot doing my first CMS… yes i made one, and i used it for some clients of mine.

But today this is not an option anymore. What i need is much more professional and PHP Open Source CMS are the best way.
These products are stable, bigger, and they fix a lot of bugs following high standards of quality, performance, and they merge many modern open source php and ajax tools giving you a powerful system. And today i need some libraries to edit images, cropping, resizing… tools that in past were not important, but they are now.

PHP is alive, together with Mysql and it gives a lot of power. Asp is old and discontinued by Microsoft… so i cannot follow some nostalgic good guys.

So i think that asp classic is a good tool to learn some easy logic at school, it allows you to make some bad code too, for example it doesn’t use the “;” at the end of the strings :) like PHP would.

But seriously i would advice everyone to jump to PHP as soon as they can. It is more powerful, and it can teach you how to make better code.

]]> By: jehangir Sarkar http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1559 jehangir Sarkar Wed, 26 May 2010 05:43:47 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1559 sir may i get simple script book sir may i get simple script book

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]]> By: Austin http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/?p=37&cpage=2#comment-1247 Austin Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:58:18 +0000 http://www.chazzuka.com/blog/index.php?p=88&t=asp-classic-programming-still-alive.html#comment-1247 I am not a big .Net fan and classic ASP has not failed me yet. I look forward to testing out the ASP framework. I am not a big .Net fan and classic ASP has not failed me yet. I look forward to testing out the ASP framework.

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